Minutes of the Eleventh OGSI-WG Teleconference
20/Nov/2002 @ 21:30-23:00 GMT

Attendees:

Tim Bank <IBM>
Karl Czajkowski <USC/ISI>
Shel Finkelstein <Sun>
Bill Horn <IBM>
John Rofrana <IBM>
Andreas Savva <Fujitsu>
Dave Snelling <Fujitsu>
Steve Tuecke <ANL>
Pete Vanderbilt <NASA>

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1. Approval of Minutes

Rofrano didn't recall "Rejected: Add a delete operation. It will remain as proposed."  Will leave the delete operation 
in his latest proposal.  We can remove later as we evaluate the updated proposal.

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2. Review actions

Action: Jeff Frey to draw up a description of how to integrate the 'implicit' verses 'SDE' state dichotomy. Also look 
into other issues of coherency control. - Pending

Action: Steve T&G to push on W3C to get what we need (portType extension without breaking encapsulation). Take ownership. - Pending

Action: Pete to go through the SDEs in the spec to see if these changes have any gotchas.
  Done: Emailed results the list.  There were some gotchas.  Follow-up list.

Action: Tom Maguire and John R, not being happy with the mutability language, will propose new language reflecting the current meaning. - Pending

Action: Steve G & John R to update Service Data document and integrate the Set service Data Document. - Pending

Action: Dave S Faults summary. - Pending

Action: Dave S to write up a proposal
  Done (not sure what this is)

Action: Steve Graham and Pete to drive the creation of an XML Schema for the specification (#35) - Pending

Action: Steve Graham to craft language for recommendations to developers for use of resolvers (#17) - Pending

Action: Dave Snelling and Andrew Grimshaw to look at requirements and solutions for pull like semantics - Pending

Action: Steve G. and Jeff F. to send new position on topic based notification - Pending

Action: Shel will follow-up Events use cases for events and notification. - Pending

Action: All to post use cases for Notification/Events to the list.
  Done.

Action: Keith to post pointers to the Python implementation.
  Done.

Action: Dave S to put a proposition for registration portType, together
with exact text. - Pending

Action John Rofrano and Ellen Stokes will propose a setServiceDataByName(s) text.
Also by DB style Update if possible. Done, but reissued request for a new draft
following discussions on Nov 6th.

Action: Andrew G to write a document describing the options for reslover behavior. - Pending

Action: Steve T. publish spec and Resloved/Fixed bug numbers.
  Done.

Action: Steve T. Email list of proposed resolve->verified bugs.

Action: Pete V. and Steve T. to propose a more general solution to the extensibility argument pattern, see bug 34.

Action: Pete V. to create XML schema for locator elements, see bug 37.


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3. Bugzilla sweep

Bug 5: Reject (resolve, wontfix)

This is out of bounds of ogsi.  This is either a property of the service implementation, or is a language/domain 
specific extension to the base factory functionality.

Bug 17: Already an action

Bug 19: Resolve, later

Resolution:

  Change terminationTime input to be the <terminationTime> element, containing both the
      before and after values, to be initial values to the instance.
  Keep ServiceParameters input
  Keep ServiceLocator output
  Change CurrentTerminationTime output to also be a <terminationTime> element.
  Keep ServiceTimestamp to be consistent with setTermination* operation.  Rename to
      include the word "Current", to maintain symmetry with the setTermination* operations
  Remove MaximumExtension.
  Keep ExtensibilityOutput (but perhaps rename to be more consistent with input parameter name)

Bug 30, 31: Leave open

Bug 34: Leave open

Rename to: How to specify choices for extensibility arguments to operations

Do we have the right model for these operation templates?
To give more complete specifications, we start duplicating WSDL...