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Agenda GGF-9
GGF-9 Agenda:   
* Best Practices Sections for Review: Chair - Judith Utley
* Welcome
* Need Secretary and Note Takers
* Review GGF Intellecutal Property
* GridForge: forge.ggf.org
* Best Practices Document:
  o Sections for Review and Discussion:
    + Introduction and Outline: Judith Utley
    + Accounting: Doru Marcusiu
    + User Services: John Townes
      o BP Document Sections Reviewed at GGF-8
        + (noted here for reference only; will not be reviewed at GGF-9)
        + Steve Chan, Security
        + Bruce Barkstrom, Capacity Management
* Case Studies Status and Discussion: Chair - Franz Pfrfeundt
  o Case Studies Format
  o Case Studies Submitted
    + Yosshio Tanaka, Asian Pacific Grid 
    + Erwin Dietman, Rambadt, Wieder, The Grid Interoperability Project
    + Presentations from PGM Meetings (noted here for reference only):
      # GGF-7:
        * Yosshio Tanaka, Building the AsianPacific Grid
        * Satoshi Matsuoka, Japanese National Grid Project Infrastructure
        * GGF-6:
          o David Foster, LHC Project
        * GGF-5:
          o Keith Jackson, Doe Science Grid
        * New Business        
        * Future Meetings
          o GGF-10
            + March 8-10, Frankfurt, Germany
              # Working Session Only
          o GGF-11
            + June 5-8, Honolulu, HI, USA
Minutes GGF-9
Minutes of the GGF-9 Session:
* Introduction and Business:
  Judith Utley opened the meeting and introduced the Intellectual Property statement.  The group needs a Secretary. Ian 
Bird agreed to serve temporarily. Judith briefly discussed the direction of PGM-RG: Complete the documents that the 
group committed to at GGF-6. By taking the writing of these documents outside of the sessions will help to move these 
documents forward faster as well as free time for new issues of concern to the group. By making use of gridforge for 
drafts and circulation everyone the group can review the work being done. GGF meetings will be used to host workshops 
and leave sessions open to discuss current issues related to grid management. PGM should host at least one workshop a 
year.


* Best Practice document status:
  There have been problems finding authors with time to devote to this work. Some authors who wanted to contribute found
 they had copyright issues. These concerns have been resolved. The Best Practice document can refer to papers the author
 or others have published elsewhere. Another problem is that potential authors are asking for an outline. Three outlines
 have been presented. None were accepted. The group voted earlier to not use outlines, giving authors more freedom. This
 is creating a document that is becoming too large. Judith is trying to cut this down as well as give authors the 
freedom that some believe is required. Each section will now have an outline of areas to cover; more of a summary of the
 topic. Links to other, perhaps longer documents, produced both internally or externally can be referenced. This seems 
to be a compromise between producing a document that will be accepted and still allow authors the freedom that some in 
the group believe they should have. The group agreed to this approach.  Contributions for the document so far:
    o Doru Marcusiu on accounting at GGF9
    o John Towns on User Services for GGF9 
    o Steve Chan on security for GGF8
    o Bruce Barkstrum on capacity management for GGF8
* Doru Marcusiu Grid Account Management (presentation and discussion) Doru presented a case study on Grid Account 
Management to illustrate various aspects of what is meant by account management, and accounting as well as showing 
existing solutions and suggestions for the future.
 o Goals for Grid Account Management:
    + Salability
    + Non intrusive interface to existing policies/services?
    + Dynamic
    + Secure
    + Extensible
    + Automation
  o What is accounting?
    + Collection, collation and reporting of resource usage
    + Multiple accounting systems need to be coordinated
    + Tracking by DN
    + Distributed, cross-domain resources
There was a discussion on who is responsible for DNs being unique. It was clear in the discussion that this must be the 
CA even if the CA is part of the grid operation (and is unique). In the general case where a grid accepts several CAs, 
uniqueness within a CA guarantees uniqueness in the grid.
    + Grid account management issues:
    + Each site has account management system and policies
    + Must work without central authoritative source of information
    + Use std extensible exchange mech
    + Support management of cert DNs Questions on multiple DNs       
       to 1 account means cannot have definite account reporting;       
       - would need to track which DN maps to local account 
          + policy issues e.g. at DOE sites
 
 Doru commented that there would probably never be a need for cross-domain resources, but in fact this will already be 
essential for projects such as EGEE. There was a discussion on mapping of users to accounts vs job level mapping. Try to
 avoid multiple credentials. A focus on supporting a single organization grid was seen
 as too simplistic. There was agreement that it is essential to keep informed on standards.  Various different 
accounting systems already exist (discussion) and no one-size-fits all exists there should be several...
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