Participants:
Etienne, Morris, Johannes, Emannouil, Balazs, Oxana, Jules, Luigi

a)
>-Debrief minutes of last PGI TelCon
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>-(b)
>-Debrief PGI actions
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>-(c)
>-Very short: continue discussion animation ppt of PGI operation & state model
>-Re: Developer experience says MUST might be tough
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>-(d)
>-Debrief Steven Newhouse comments on the list
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>-(e)
>-Debrief Bernd Schuller comments on the list
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>-(f)
>-Debrief Etienne Comments on the list
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>-(g)
>-Next meeting
>-
>-(h)
>-AOB


Balazs:
two more points for discussion

shift meeting half an hour earlier

agreed to shift the meeing on Thursday 15:30 (CET)

how to edit the document

make the document more readable
notes in ppt - reference in document to ppt
Balazs will be editor of the document
remark changes
Morris will keep track of ppt working slides

identify tasks which should be done by certain people

ad a)
add action: nail down ppt
lot of comments 

ad b)
updated version of action will be sent out after the meeting

ad c)
going through the slides, editing the slides
outcome of last weeks discussion:
approach A will be chosen
short overview of the "dropped" approaches

Morris: 
questions: what do ARC people think about?

Balazs:
two operations mandatory?

Morris:
discuss now

Balazs:
requirement part in createActivity operation

you should put a limit in your server for vector operations

sees no problem

Morris:
one step approach
here you get everything back

maybe broken job ids or 
job ids point to broken jobs, killed jobs etc...

Balazs:
will fail because not validated

both are vector operations

spec requires validation

Morris:
only steps 1,2,3 are mandatory

Balazs:
what is the initial stat the job gets to

Etienne:
createActivity -> validated substate
before createActivity previous substate has to be created

submitted validating
submitted validated

Morris:
state model with different starting points?

Etienne:
initial state without name inside the submitted state

action for Balazs:
integrate discussed points in document before next meeting

Etienne:
notification can be only used if supported by SOAP

Morris:
keep this first out of PGI space

Balazs:
how can session directory be handled?

Morris:
back to the client we have two options
A use of GLUE elements in ResourceInfo portType
B query job properties in the Execution portType

Balazs:
and we have 
0 SOAP Response contains it


next meeting:
discuss comments by S. Newhouse and B. Schuller
these comments are integrated int he ppt

Morris:
very good conclusions

Balazs will check this with spec before next meeting - highlight points to be discussed

Etienne:
title of document change?

Balazs:
Etienne will edit document with track changes on

Etienne:
move chapter 5 before chapter 2

Balazs:
will be done