Minutes of the Eight OGSI-WG Teleconference
02/10/2002 @ 15:00-16:30 GMT

Attendees:

Tim Banks <IBM>
Karl Czajkowski <ISI>
Shel Finkelstein <Sun>
Steve Graham <IBM>
Andrew Grimshaw <Avaki>
Bill Horn <IBM>
Fred Maciel <Hitachi>
Andreas Savva <Fujitsu>
Frank Siebenlist <ANL>
David Snelling <Fujitsu>
Steve Teucke <ANL>
Peter Vanderbilt <NASA>

1) Approval of minutes form Setpember 25th. OK

2) Review of pending actions:

Time:
  Wednesday, October 2nd
     08:00-09:30 US Pacific (GMT - 7)
     09:00-10:30 US Mountain (GMT - 6)
     10:00-11:30 US Central (GMT - 5)
     11:00-12:30 US Eastern (GMT - 4)
     15:00-16:30 GMT
     16:00-17:30 UK (GMT + 1)
     17:00-18:30 Central Europe (GMT + 2)
     00:00-01:30 Japan

Place:
  Phone: Correct through GGF6.
	Phone number: 1-484-630-5376
	Pass code: 93031
  IRC:
     DALnet
     #ogsi

1) Approval of minutes form Setpember 25th.

2) Review of pending actions:

Action: Steve Graham to drive the creation of an XML Schema for the
specification, #35 - Pending, but may be dealt with in a breakout at
GGF6.

Action: Steve Graham to craft language for recommendations to
developers for use of resolvers. Pending, but may be a session at
GGF6.

Action: Dave Snelling and Andrew Grimshaw to look at requirements and
solutions for pull like semantics - Pending with ideas forming.

Action: Dave will look into a DeliverWithAck option. One issue is
specifying which delivery operation should be used - Pending, but ties
into the events and notifications discussions.

[Minute takers note: My apologies for driving the following section a
 bit heavy handed, but there seems to be too much time spent in
 teleconferences without a clear indication of the topic or it's
 motivation.]

Several actions around QoS issues:

Note from the interim meeting minutes 4-6 September 2002:

     "Resolved: This WG does not need to address QoS
         issues of a GridService at this time."

Therefore, our procedures indicate  that anyone wishing to reopen this
issue  needs to  produce a  compelling  case to  the list.  Therefore,
pending approval at the next meeting, the new actions are:

Action: Proponents of the inclusion of QoS specifications in Grid
Service portTypes to produce documentation to the list justifying a
reconsideration of this issue.

The following action is therefore considered dropped. Once the above
is completed, new actions along these lines may be required.

Action: Proponents of specifying QoS at the binding only are asked to
answer the following: How does reliable mesaging work in the absence
of portType specification of QoS? How does the client/service
request/provide it? - Dropped.

Action: Steve Tueke will propose a binding layer project to OGSA WG,
but he is not committed to dirve it.

3) Review of plans for GGF

The following topics were identified, but we did not assign priorities:

   - Notification possibly divided into "Event-style mechanisms".
   - Extension relationship in the GS portTypes.
   - Collection interface hierarchy and operations.
   - Bugizlla issue review.
   - Interim strategy discussion (what to do while we wait for WSDL 1.2)
   - Resolver behavior and the semantics of multiple naming schemes.
   - Read-Write SDE's
   - Coherency semantics of multiple findServiceData operations. 
   - Others from bug list.

Just for your information, I will leave this here:

Tuesday, October 15
  07.00 - 08.00  GFSG meeting
  08.30 - 09.30  Opening Plenary
  10.00 - 11.30  OGSI WG Update
  12.00 - 13.30  OGSA-SEC WG
                   &  DAIS WG session 1
  14.00 - 15.30  OGSI WG Technical Discussion
  16.00 - 17.30  OGSA WG
  19.30 - 21.30  Social event

Wednesday, October 16
  07.00 - 08.00  GFSG meeting
  08.00 - 09.30  DAIS WG session 2
  10.00 - 11.30  OGSA WG
  12.00 - 13.30  OGSI WG Technical Discussion
  14.00 - 15.30  OGSI WG Technical Discussion
  16.00 - 17.30  Unscheduled (Globus people have R&D 100 award...