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Title: Namespace of Relations
Description:
Proposal:

Use a full URI in the type of Relations.

XML:
  <nml:Relation type="http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2012/10/base#isSink">

RDF:
  @prefix ex: <urn:ogf:network:example.net:2012:> .
  @prefix nml: <http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2012/10/base#>; .
  ex:myPort  nml:isSink  ex:myLink
Submitted By: Jeroen van der Ham
Submitted On: 03/14/2012 10:18 AM EDT
Last Modified: 11/30/2012 8:06 AM EST
Closed: 11/30/2012 8:06 AM EST

Status / Comments Change Log Associations Attachments  
Status  
Status:* Completed
Category:* Identifiers
Priority: * 2
Assigned To: * Jeroen van der Ham
Comments
Jeroen van der Ham: 11/30/2012 8:06 AM EST
  Action: Update
Closed set to 11/30/2012
Status changed from Last Call to Completed
Jeroen van der Ham: 10/09/2012 12:48 PM EDT
  Comment:
I've just did some global search and replace in the documents and examples in revision 69.
  Action: Update
Freek Dijkstra: 09/05/2012 9:36 AM EDT
  Action: Update
Description changed from
Proposal:

Use a full URI in the type of Relations.

XML:
  <nml:Relation type="http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/relation/2013/10/isSink">;

RDF:
  @prefix ex: <urn:ogf:network:example.net:2012:> .
  @prefix nmlrel: <http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/relations/2013/10/>; .
  ex:myPort  nmlrel:isSink  ex:myLink
to
Proposal:

Use a full URI in the type of Relations.

XML:
  <nml:Relation type="http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2012/10/base#isSink">;

RDF:
  @prefix ex: <urn:ogf:network:example.net:2012:> .
  @prefix nml: <http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2012/10/base#>; .
  ex:myPort  nml:isSink  ex:myLink

Jason Zurawski: 08/16/2012 7:20 AM EDT
  Comment:
Full URI is fine with me, reading through the changelog on this one the scope has shifted a bit from the original issue :)
  Action: Update
Freek Dijkstra: 08/07/2012 6:29 PM EDT
  Action: Update
Category changed from Procedural to Identifiers
Priority changed from 4 to 2
Status changed from Need proposal to Last Call
Freek Dijkstra: 07/11/2012 8:36 PM EDT
  Comment:
A similar proposal should probably be create for using full URIs in the type attribute for Services (artf6536) and full URIs in the type attribute for
 Labels.
  Action: Update
Freek Dijkstra: 07/11/2012 8:32 PM EDT
  Action: Update
Description changed from
Proposal:

Use a full URI in the type of Relations.

XML:
  <nml:Relation type="http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/relation/2016/0/isSink">;

RDF:
  @prefix ex: <urn:ogf:network:example.net:2012:> .
  @prefix nmlrel: <http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/relations/2013/10/>; .
  ex:myPort  nmlrel:isSink  ex:myLink
to
Proposal:

Use a full URI in the type of Relations.

XML:
  <nml:Relation type="http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/relation/2013/10/isSink">;

RDF:
  @prefix ex: <urn:ogf:network:example.net:2012:> .
  @prefix nmlrel: <http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/relations/2013/10/>; .
  ex:myPort  nmlrel:isSink  ex:myLink

Freek Dijkstra: 07/11/2012 8:32 PM EDT
  Action: Update
Description changed from
We have no preference for XML namespacing of relation names. Roman proposes using namespaces for type attribute <nml:
Relation nml-ext:type="hasExample">


See: https://forge.ogf.org/svn/repos/nml-examples/201203-schema/relation.xml
to
Proposal:

Use a full URI in the type of Relations.

XML:
  <nml:Relation type="http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/relation/2016/0/isSink">;

RDF:
  @prefix ex: <urn:ogf:network:example.net:2012:> .
  @prefix nmlrel: <http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/relations/2013/10/>; .
  ex:myPort  nmlrel:isSink  ex:myLink

Freek Dijkstra: 07/11/2012 8:29 PM EDT
  Comment:
During OGF35 Roman expressed favour for proposal #2 listed below, as that was the way things are done in NM. E.g.

<nmwg:eventType>http://ggf.org/ns/nmwg/characteristic/delay/one−way</nmwg:eventType>;

Jeroen and Freek agreed that this makes things a lot easier.
  Action: Update
Freek Dijkstra: 07/11/2012 8:26 PM EDT
  Comment:
At OGF 35 I like a short discussion on identifiers for relations.

Currently, it is just a string in XML. e.g. "isSink", "hasPort"
However, it is a full URL in RDF, e.g.
"http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2013/10/relation#isSink",
"http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2013/10/relation#hasPort".

So the translation is to simply prefix the XML-identifier with a fixed (special-purpose) URI. So far I used "http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2013/10/
relation#".

However, as we found at the previous OGF, this is a problem when a new version of NML is defined in the future, with possibly more relations.
Eg.: "http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2016/08/relation#isSink". In that case, it is no longer clear which URL should be prepended to the base name ("isSink
").

I can see two solutions:

1. Append the namespace of the element when translating.
E.g.
<nml:Topology xmlns:nml="http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2013/10/base#">
...
  <nml:Relation type="isSink">
becomes "http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2013/10/base#isSink"

(thus not "http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2013/10/relation#isSink")

2. Don't translate relation identifier between XML and RDF, and use full URI in XML (yes, it's ugly, but it's simple):
<nml:Relation type="http://schemas.ogf.org/nml/2016/08/relation#isSink">
  Action: Update
Freek Dijkstra: 04/05/2012 11:51 AM EDT
  Action: Update
Title changed from Relation and Namespaces to Namespace of Relations
Freek Dijkstra: 04/05/2012 11:45 AM EDT
  Action: Update
Description changed from
We have no preference for XML namespacing of relation names. Roman proposes using namespaces for type attribute <nml:
Relation nml-ext:type="hasExample">


See: https://forge.ogf.org/integration/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/201203-schema/relation.xml?rev=20&content-type=
text%2Fplain&system=exsy1001&root=nml-examples
to
We have no preference for XML namespacing of relation names. Roman proposes using namespaces for type attribute <nml:
Relation nml-ext:type="hasExample">


See: https://forge.ogf.org/svn/repos/nml-examples/201203-schema/relation.xml

Jeroen van der Ham: 04/05/2012 11:44 AM EDT
  Action: Update
Assigned To set to Jeroen van der Ham
Freek Dijkstra: 03/28/2012 10:46 AM EDT
  Action: Update
Status changed from New to Need proposal
Jason Zurawski: 03/27/2012 7:30 PM EDT
  Comment:
Disregarding my last comment, I was looking at the changelog and not the issue ...

I do not have a strong opinion on typed attributes.  I feel its a bit much given the namespace of the element  and the namespace of the attribute are 
the same 99.9999% of the time.  I suppose in rare instances where we want to use an attribute from a different namespace this will be a positive 
change, but I dont ever see that happening.  Do we have examples of when/why it will happen?
  Action: Update
Jason Zurawski: 03/27/2012 7:22 PM EDT
  Comment:
I don't understand this item, the text looks exactly the same below.  Am I missing something?
  Action: Update
Jeroen van der Ham: 03/14/2012 10:52 AM EDT
  Action: Update
Description changed from
We have no preference for XML namespacing of relation names. Roman proposes using namespaces for type attribute <nml:
Relation nml-ext:type="hasExample">

to
We have no preference for XML namespacing of relation names. Roman proposes using namespaces for type attribute <nml:
Relation nml-ext:type="hasExample">


See: https://forge.ogf.org/integration/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/201203-schema/relation.xml?rev=20&content-type=
text%2Fplain&system=exsy1001&root=nml-examples

Jeroen van der Ham: 03/14/2012 10:18 AM EDT
  Action: Create


 
 
 
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