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Title: (565) GESA: milestone updates
Description:
requested more consise milestones from wg chairs.
Submitted By: Jennifer Schopf
Submitted On: 11/08/2003 3:13 PM EST
Last Modified: 06/05/2004 7:57 PM EST
Closed: 06/05/2004 7:57 PM EST

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Group: * gesa-wg
Status:* Closed
Category: * them
Customer: *
Priority: * 3
Assigned To: * Bill Nitzberg
Reported in Release: *
Fixed in Release: *
Estimated Hours: * 0
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Due Date: * 2003-11-15
Comments
Jennifer Schopf: 06/05/2004 7:57 PM EST
  Action: Update
artifact_status changed from Open to Closed
close_date changed from - to 2004-06-05 19:57:08
Jennifer Schopf: 01/28/2004 1:23 AM EST
  Comment:
pending waiting reply from mail sent to 3 chairs on jan 27
  Action: Update
Jennifer Schopf: 12/09/2003 11:52 AM EST
  Comment:
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:36:39 -0600
To: "Jon MacLaren" <jon.maclaren@man.ac.uk>, "'Bill Nitzberg'" <bill@computer.org>
From: Jennifer Schopf <jms@mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: RE: FW: Revised GESA Milestones
Cc: "'Kate Keahey'" <keahey@mcs.anl.gov>, "'Steven Newhouse'" <sjn5@doc.ic.ac.uk>

Jon et al.

So this still isn't what we need. Currently, these read like an agenda, not milestones. What we need from you is all your document milestones. You can
 have other additional milestones, but at the minimum we need your document milestones.  

So for example, we would suggest changing

GGF 10: Develop GESA use cases of WS-Agreement in GWD-I.  Produce critique of WSA for GESA, feeding requirements to the GRAAP-WG.

to

GGF10: Submit "GESA use cases of WS_AGreement" GWD-I document to editor

And we don't understand the second activity listed here.

Because the steering group is meeting and going over all of the working groups and research groups in GGF very shortly, we need these from you by the 
end of the week.  If one of you guys had been on the call it would have been useful. Jon's excused because he sent us a note\, but that leaves two 
other chairs awol.

Please get back to us as soon as you can

   -jen and bill


 



At 09:04 PM 12/8/2003 +0000, Jon MacLaren wrote:
Jenny, Bill,

This is the final version.  I thought the email addressed to you guys - as
opposed to the forwarded message which is clearly addressed to the group -
made this fairly clear.  The message forwarded on to you is the one sent to
the list asking for comments on the re-edited milestones.  There weren't any
- so I just forwarded that message to you.

Have a look at this, then send us all comments in one go, please.

Thanks,

Jon.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Schopf [mailto:jms@mcs.anl.gov]
> Sent: 08 December 2003 18:54
> To: Jon MacLaren; Bill Nitzberg
> Cc: Kate Keahey; Steven Newhouse
> Subject: Re: FW: Revised GESA Milestones
> 
> Jon-
> 
>     We're confused- is this the final version?  it includes your note
> asking for comments, so we have been waiting for a final one. If this IS
> the final one we'll look it.  As a comment, it would help if the documents
> had titles instead of referring to them as just GWD-I, etc. Thanks
> 
>     -jen and bill
> 
> 
> At 04:38 PM 11/18/2003 +0000, Jon MacLaren wrote:
> >Bill, Jenny,
> >
> >Here are our more simplistic milestones.
> >
> >Jon.
> >From: "Jon MacLaren" <jon.maclaren@man.ac.uk>
> >To: <gesa-wg@gridforum.org>
> >Subject: Revised GESA Milestones
> >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:39:05 -0000
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> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >Our area directors Bill and Jenny have asked us for a revised set of
> >milestones.  Here are some proposed ones that Kate, Steven and I have
> come
> >up with, based on the minutes from GGF9.  All comments to the list by the
> >end of next Tuesday, please.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Jon.
> >
> >---------
> >
> >GGF 10: Develop GESA use cases of WS-Agreement in GWD-I.  Produce
> critique
> >of WSA for GESA, feeding requirements to the GRAAP-WG.
> >
> >GGF 11: Make final decision on whether WSA can form the basis for
> >GESA.  Submit GWD-I to GGF editors.
> >
> >GGF 12: Converge on a revised set of interfaces and protocols.  Write
> >GWD-I detailing a variety of economic models (e.g. fixed price trading,
> >auction model, etc.) to verify GESA against.
> >
> >GGF 13: Demonstrate that the GESA spec satisfies the models in the
> >GWD-I.  Describe any experiences resulting from the implementation of
> GESA
> >as a GWD-E document.  Submit these to the GGF editors.
> >
> >GGF 14: Complete and submit the GESA specification document to GGF
> editors
> >as a GWD-C document.  Consider transformation into a GWD-R.
> >
> >Note that the GGF12 milestone depends on whether or not WSA is adopted as
> >a basis for GESA; if it is, this effort will be focussed on constructing
> a
> >set of "economic terms" for WSA.
> 
>
  Action: Update
Jennifer Schopf: 11/08/2003 3:24 PM EST
  Comment:
From: "Bill Nitzberg" <bill@computer.org> 
To: "'Jon MacLaren'" <jon.maclaren@man.ac.uk>, 
   "'Kate Keahey'" <keahey@mcs.anl.gov>, 
   "'Steven Newhouse'" <sjn5@doc.ic.ac.uk> 
Cc: "'Jennifer Schopf'" <jms@mcs.anl.gov> 
Subject: RE: milestones needed 
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:15:11 -0800 


Hi,


We are going over all the updated milestones of the SRM area,
and would like to have all the milestones be more uniform
(in style across the area) and able to easily measure forward
progress.


The following are good examples from other groups:
  "Submit document to GGF Editor", or
  "Final call for document X on WG mailing list", or
  "Resubmit document to GGF Editor after addressing Public Comments"
Adding interim progress points like "write up use case for X", or
"outline of document Y", etc., are also helpful.


The GESA milestones a bit wordy and need to be more concrete (e.g.,
"submitted to GGF Editor" rather than "plan to ..." or "probably ...").
For example, rather than:
> GGF 13: Demonstrate that the developed protocols and  interfaces
> support the decided-upon set of economic models.  We will also
> describe  any experiences resulting from the use of this
> infrastructure in a GWD-E document.
Something like:
GGF 13: Submit "Experiences using GESA Infrastructure" GWD-E document
        to GGF Editor.
(Shorter is always better :-).


If you could revise these in the next week or so, that would be
great.


Thanks,


- bill & jen
GGF SRM Area Directors


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon MacLaren [mailto:jon.maclaren@man.ac.uk] 
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:59 AM
> To: 'Jennifer Schopf'; Bill Nitzberg
> Cc: 'Kate Keahey'; Steven Newhouse
> Subject: RE: milestones needed
> 
> 
> Jenny, Bill,
> 
> Here are the milestones for GESA.
> 
> GGF 10: Develop GESA use cases of WS-Agreement to evaluate 
> WSA for use as
> basis for GESA.  Produce a critique of WSA for GESA and feed any
> requirements to the GRAAP working group.
> 
> GGF 11: Plan to make a final decision on whether WSA can form 
> the basis for
> GESA, based on feedback to WSA requirements.
> 
> GGF 12: Converge on an interface definition and protocols 
> through a revised
> set of interfaces and protocols.  If WSA is adopted, this 
> effort will be
> focussed on constructing a set of "economic terms" for WSA.  
> We will also
> decide upon a variety of economic models (e.g. fixed price trading, an
> 'auction' model, etc.) to verify our protocols and interfaces 
> supports -
> this will probably be written up as a GWD-I.
> 
> GGF 13: Demonstrate that the developed protocols and 
> interfaces support the
> decided-upon set of economic models.  We will also describe 
> any experiences
> resulting from the use of this infrastructure in a GWD-E document. 
> 
> GGF 14: Complete the GESA specification document, probably as a GWD-C
> document, and consider initiating a standards recommendation 
> as a GWD-R.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jon.
  Action: Update
Jennifer Schopf: 11/08/2003 3:13 PM EST
  Action: Create


 
 
 
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