04/14/2005 10:16 AM
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Minutes GGF13 Session 1
Production Grid Management (PGM-RG)
Session 1 - Group Business: Status, Logistics, etc.
PGM-RG: Session 1 - Agenda
Merger
New charter review
Old business resolution
Merger next steps and commitments
Open Documents
Grid Constitution
Tools and Requirements
Next steps and commitments
Workshop Planning
Brainstorm topics & co-sponsors
Workshop next steps and commitments
GGF13 Open Session
Agenda Review
Meeting Management
Follow-up Strategies
Other topics?
Review and wrap-up
PGM-RG + GUS-RG = ?
[The name "Production Grid Services" was recommended for the merged group. Other ideas are welcome and will be put to the mailing list for consensus.]
Grid User Services has asked us to consider merging with them
Areas of focus have strong overlap
Both groups lack critical mass of active participants
Need to:
Approve New Charter
Resolve old issues from both groups
Request and receive approval from GGF management
PGM+GUS: New Charter
[Document is available on the mailing list. Put it on the gridforge site, also]
Purpose: The purpose of this group is to bring together grid practitioners to document experiences, identify best practice and develop informational documents. These documents are offered as suggested guides to organizations moving a grid to the persistent level. This group also explores new paradigms in supporting grids that aspire to become large-scale grids with a large user/application base, while not excluding the small grid efforts. In addition, this forum can be used to discuss problems and concerns that are likely to be encountered, technical as well as non-technical, when moving grid testbeds to production environments. This group should have an ongoing presence in GGF, serving a SIG/UG purpose in the grid community.
[Identity of the group converged on the ideas that the group serves as a clearinghouse for organizational knowledge, and exists to make sure users & site people have a voice in grid mgt & development]
Goals:
G-1) Identify technical and non-technical issues that need to be addressed for a production grid installation to be successful.
G-2) Develop "common practices" documents for critical issues as they are identified.
G-3) Facilitate opportunities for grid users and practitioners to share experiences in bringing grids to production.
G-4) Spin off Working Groups when the need for detailed GGF documents (e.g. recommendations) is identified.
Milestones:
M-1) Grid Constitution Document - spin off WG to complete
M-2) PGM Survey
M-3) Tools Document - to be completed by current team (had been submitted to GGF Editor)
M-4) Trouble Ticket Document - reevaluate interest, identify authors for this document; spin off WG if warranted
M-5) Workshops
Chairs:
David Wallom, University of Bristol, UK
Judith Utley, USA
Laura McGinnis, Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, USA
PGM+GUS: Open Documents
Grid Constitution
[96% complete; David Wallom will finish, with input from the mailing list]
Tools and Requirements
Next steps and commitments
PGM-RG: Workshop Planning
[What about doing workshops on the access grid?
Can get ppl from the trenches who generally are unable to travel, especially to GGF meetings, since they're busy doing
the "real" work. ]
[It was also recommended that we consider offering workshops at non-GGF events (e.g UK All-Hands Meetings]
Brainstorm topics & co-sponsors
[New Ideas:
Cost modeling workshop Bruce Barkstrom (bruce.r.barkstrom@nasa.gov; from NASA Langley) could do a tutorial for GGF next spring (GGF16)
Usage Record Format Authors + Sites that are using it
Site Testing for Production Environments]
Workshop next steps and commitments
[Next workshops:
Apps-RG has asked us to work with them on a workshop for GGF14; details will be sent out to the list shortly
GGF Usage Record Format: Implementations & Issues (GGF15)
Cost Modeling (GGF16)]
GGF13: Session 2 Prep
Open session for "new" members
Tuesday, 14 March
5:00-6:30pm
Sapphire Ballroom...
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