Susan Malaika
Cecile Madsen
Dieter Gawlick
Chris Kantarjiev (minutes)
Steve Fisher
apologies from Vijay Dailani

no call next week, nor the two weeks after. Next call is 30 September.

GGF12 sessions:

wed 9am session: use cases from steve/susan (30m). 30 minutes on
specs (chris). 30 minutes on relationships (wsn/ogsa/dais)

wed eve session: use cases part 2: deeper discussions for interested parties

thursday morning f2f: work on the infod doc

Use cases: Dieter would like to see us emphasize pub/sub more. He likes
the mammogram example. "Data is coming to the people". Adam Bosworth
has written an interesting article "don't come to us, we'll come to you" -
that is, rather than users having to pull the data, the data (and
the producers of the data) get/push the information to the right people.

We are trying to produce the technology that allows this to happen;
DAIS and friends do not really permit it - they are more a pull model,
at bottom.

Cecile: WSN limitations. Topic-based/subject-based rather than
content-based. Looking to produce some specific use cases that
play up this difference.

Dieter suggests a use case of sending out bills from a large company.

a. If we were to keep WSN, how could we expand topic concept to do
what we need? Let's bring this conversation into the public view.

b. If it's too limiting, what do we do instead (infod, one guesses)?

Dieter is meeting with Martin Chapman (WSN representative from
Oracle) on Monday next, and will report back after.

Dieter has two outstanding todos from last week:

"Dieter asserts that there may be a great deal of ID source
material/scenarios in the on-line banking world. He will come up
with some details for Susan/Steve to use."

"Dieter will come up with an example for next time of rule systems
that do/don't work in this environment based on Oracle's discoveries
around AQ."

One of his examples relates to chemical storage at NASA...